ADA Shop Talk Episode 040 – The door landing is on the public sidewalk, what do I do?, Are signs required to comply on the second floor of a CMDU?, More on truncated domes.

ADA Shop Talk Episode 040 – The door landing is on the public sidewalk, what do I do?, Are signs required to comply on the second floor of a CMDU?, More on truncated domes.

Internet Radio Talk Show With Paul Klein

December 12, 2017

Questions answered this episode:

John – Hey guys. Just wanted to follow up on your ADA Shop Talk discussion regarding yellow detectable warnings. I understand your logic for yellow not being required at curb ramps, islands or cut-through medians being that those elements are not ‘specifically’ identified in 11B-705.1.1.3 for the yellow requirement, but if a curb ramp is positioned adjacent to the vehicular way wouldn’t that be considered at a ‘hazardous vehicular area’ requiring yellow detectable warnings? I know the term ‘hazardous vehicular areas’ is not defined in the CBC and I’ve seen multiple online discussions and jurisdictional interpretations. We view the term in our office as a known areas where vehicles may be in motion (e.g. parking spaces, loading zones, drive aisles), areas which would be a potential hazard to those with disabilities, particularly those with site impairments for whom detectable warnings are designed to service. I’ve attached an older Placer County Building Department notice for your review that makes analytical sense of the term to us. Any additional thoughts?

Keith – Hi there, I have a proposed exterior facade remodel to an existing restaurant building built in the 1970’s. They are installing new canopies, siding, and new entry door and sidelights. They are also installing new over head lighting in the new canopies. The front of the building has a public sidewalk and public street parking in front. The building has no onsite parking, the exterior walls are on the property line. The issue is that the existing entry door is 4 inches above sidewalk elevation and the entry door has this step up. The existing door has a sign posted caution step up. I think since they are replacing door they should provide accessible entry. If they are to get a landing and ramp they would have to do major structural work to existing floor framing and interior structure. They asked public works if they could encroach a landing ramp into the sidewalk and they replied no. I am not sure how to proceed on this. Thank you for your insight on this, Keith

Dave – Hi Guys. CBC/Housing question for you. In your opinion, for private apartments (not student housing dorm rooms) accessed from the exterior (and not an interior corridor), are unit number latch signs required to be provided with Braille and tactile characters? Is there a difference if the units are accessed directly from the exterior vs. an interior corridor?